A conversation on Joy between Rumi and Shams

This is a recording of a conversation between the poet Jelalludin Rumi and his friend and teacher Shams of Tabriz, as channeled by spiritual teacher John Windwalker. More of these conversations appear in the book "Shake Like A Mad Drum: The Eternal Friendship of Rumi and Shams" available at Amazon and  at www.RumiShams.com.
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